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(Cultural Differences) 4 and half Months until I leave HM Forces

Tuesday April 6, 2010 at 3:21pm
Commercial experience

Up until about month ago, I had spent the last 6 months worrying about what resettlement course I should do (Read my last BLOG on Course finding).

I spoke too a number of companies about what qualifications I would need to gain to make myself attractive to them. With most it wasn’t about my quals, their main concern was the experience that I had to offer.

This just added to the worry, not only did I have to find a course to do, I now had to contend with the fact that I don’t have any commercial experience.

I spoke to a consultant from Gemini about 6 weeks ago, about my quals, experience and how to take my transition forward. We formulated a plan and decided the best way forward, would be to secure a work placement.

I started a work placement 4 weeks ago just after I started writing these BLOGs, the work placement lasted 4 weeks and it was to shadow a team leader of a 4-man team working on mobile masts.

Cultural differences on the first morning

· Time keeping
· No planner for the day/week
· We had to refuel van before we could start our first job
· Van not clean in/out
· Company tops not ironed one not even cleaned
· Equipment not looked after properly


Cultural differences on the first day

· No urgency to get the job done
· Do the minimum in the longest time possible (to get overtime)
· Lack of communication before/during/after job and day
· No one knew what the next job was, so if the team leader had to leave we would of returned to the office.

Cultural differences on the second day

Had to go see the manager (ex-military). I thought it might be to talk about how the first day went.

In fact it was a complaint about a comment I made to one of the team.

It was raining and he wanted to sit in the van until the rain passed over. I made a joke about him being such a girl etc. He laughed, I laughed and the team laughed, happy days they do have a sense of humour I thought.

If the manager had not been ex-military I would have been kicked off my work placement. I had to write an apology to the team and team member and move to another team.

The Civilian experience

I was lucky to work with in a team and at the lower management level, just learning about the Cultural differences would have made the work placement worthwhile. I think the positives make the cultural differences seem very insignificant.

A commercial company is driven by its budget and the profit as are the people they employ and like the forces it relies on its reputation.

What is important, you need to accept these differences at the same time never lose your standards. It is what makes you stand out and gets you a job offer a promotion even a bonus.

I can start in 3 months I take a10% lower wage, however I have been told that I will be earning 30-40% more by the end of the first year should I perform like I did on the work placement.









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4 Comments

Mick Ward | April 6, 2010, 4:25pm
Interesting BLOG, it could almost have been written by me 18 months ago, I also did a work trial placement and thoroughly enjoyed it and as a result of it managed to secure a good position, but it was a severe culture shock, I 'kept my nose clean' during the placement and used it as an essential learning experience. I will never understand the standard 'civvy' mentality, but very quickly realised that standards are generally a lot lower that I expected and the only way to cope is to understand that they are lower, but not to lower my own standards. I am now a Team Leader, still do not understand the average 'civvy', but am working hard to raise team standards overall, wasnt sure it was working until I was asked to apply for a managment position - my hard work must have been noticed afterall. ...
Mark Philpott | April 7, 2010, 1:17am
Interesting....I felt obliged to make a comment having left the Forces 2 years ago and having experienced similar. Learning to understand civi language and expectations is key to the adjustment followed by understanding how to inject some Forces fairy dust to improve standards and improve outcomes without rocking the boat. It takes a lot of self reflection, personal awareness and an ability to listen, especially during the early months. Once you have established a bench mark for yourself and recognise how and where the invaluable experience of the Forces can make a difference, then it is simply a question of bringing that experience, including all your personal core values, to the new team you are in and putting it into practice. Being self aware and having an ability to adopt a personal, flexibile approach to change will drive your success. Good luck....
Mick Marley | April 8, 2010, 6:29pm
I left 3 years ago after serving 18 years Infantry. All I had was my HGV 1 and a chest full of medals neither have did me any good in civy st.I found everything about resettlement and all these ex mil sites a waste of time.Not once in 3 years have I even been invited for an interview from dozens of jobs I applied for.I found my own way in civy st and am now working offshore as a Construction Safety Officer having done my NEBOSH as part of my resettlement (Paid for by myself)and currently studying my NVQ level 4 in HSE.Two words all ex forces will learn to understand NO EXPERIENE. Research the job market before you do any courses see what is happening on the outside My advice from personnel experience break away from the mob right away and get the civy head on from day 1 looking back doesnt pay the bills.Good luck ...
Mark Philpott | April 10, 2010, 10:18pm
I suspect many have unknowingly achieved in civi street having acquired a great many skills in the Forces but perhaps have not yet realised all their hidden talents. I would encourage people who are venturing into civi street to be, if nothing else, confident, providing not misplaced or misguided! Whilst my day to day working experiences as a Senior Operational Manager in the Health Sector has no direct comparison to my career in the Army, my ability to remain committed, focused, confident etc (values developed in the Forces) has given me a tremendous amount of inner resilience and foresight. We should not forget who we and why we were prepared to join the Armed Forces in the first place. It says a lot but very often civilians don't know what questions to ask or don't understand the differences to enable them to reap the benfits of a Forces employee, especially in the early days.......

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